Comments on: Back the F*#% Up! http://nickonken.com/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html Nick Onken's Blog Mon, 20 May 2013 03:22:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Robert http://nickonken.com/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-2373 Robert Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:07:50 +0000 http://205.186.128.244/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html#comment-2373 I remember finding this post useful a while back especially the diagram. However, the diagram is no longer working (bad link). Would love it if you could fix it! Cheers I remember finding this post useful a while back especially the diagram. However, the diagram is no longer working (bad link).

Would love it if you could fix it!

Cheers

]]> By: nickonken http://nickonken.com/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-47 nickonken Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:46:40 +0000 http://205.186.128.244/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html#comment-47 @Claude I'm not a fan of Drobo. You have to have two of them for a true back up and if the internal hardware fails, you can't pull the drive and hook it up to recover because it's a proprietary unit. Online backup is hard when you're talking at least 4TB of storage. Bandwidth is a problem. Then if you need to recover the data, you have to download it all. It would take days/months. @Terence Jbod is easier to catalog and I can pull drives out to store them. The catalog system will know what drive a specific shoot or image is on. @Dave I'm not quite sure I understand your comment, but the tapes are for a third offsite backup. My apple consultant friend swears by them. If you only write once to them, they are supposed to last 30 years. Hard drives you have to spin up at least once a year to get them to last longer than 3-5 years. The tapes are meant to recover data if my office burns down. Not for day to day backup. That's what the mirrored HDs are for. I don't add that much data every 24 hours, but when I do it's many gigs worth of data. Some of my recent shoots have reached up to 90GB. Too much for an internet connection. @Claude I’m not a fan of Drobo. You have to have two of them for a true back up and if the internal hardware fails, you can’t pull the drive and hook it up to recover because it’s a proprietary unit. Online backup is hard when you’re talking at least 4TB of storage. Bandwidth is a problem. Then if you need to recover the data, you have to download it all. It would take days/months.
@Terence Jbod is easier to catalog and I can pull drives out to store them. The catalog system will know what drive a specific shoot or image is on.
@Dave I’m not quite sure I understand your comment, but the tapes are for a third offsite backup. My apple consultant friend swears by them. If you only write once to them, they are supposed to last 30 years. Hard drives you have to spin up at least once a year to get them to last longer than 3-5 years. The tapes are meant to recover data if my office burns down. Not for day to day backup. That’s what the mirrored HDs are for.
I don’t add that much data every 24 hours, but when I do it’s many gigs worth of data. Some of my recent shoots have reached up to 90GB. Too much for an internet connection.

]]> By: Dave Hodgkinson http://nickonken.com/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-46 Dave Hodgkinson Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:37:42 +0000 http://205.186.128.244/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html#comment-46 As someone who occasionally plays a sysadmin on TV, I have a deep, deep mistrust of tapes. Too often they've been a write-only medium and of relatively low capacity compared to disks. There are two reasons to take a backup: 1. Recovering from an "oops I deleted a file" 2. Recovering from a disaster Having a local backup mirror catches option 1. Do you add more data in 24 hours than you can sync (with compression if your RAW files are not) offsite over, say a 1 or 2 megabit line? Second site, more disks, rsync. Covers option 2. Hate tapes. As someone who occasionally plays a sysadmin on TV, I have a deep, deep mistrust of tapes. Too often they’ve been a write-only medium and of relatively low capacity compared to disks.
There are two reasons to take a backup:
1. Recovering from an “oops I deleted a file”
2. Recovering from a disaster
Having a local backup mirror catches option 1.
Do you add more data in 24 hours than you can sync (with compression if your RAW files are not) offsite over, say a 1 or 2 megabit line?
Second site, more disks, rsync.
Covers option 2.
Hate tapes.

]]> By: Terence http://nickonken.com/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-45 Terence Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:29:52 +0000 http://205.186.128.244/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html#comment-45 Any reason why you left the two 8-bay towers as JBOD as opposed to using Raid 5? Any reason why you left the two 8-bay towers as JBOD as opposed to using Raid 5?

]]> By: Greer Rivera http://nickonken.com/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-44 Greer Rivera Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:54:34 +0000 http://205.186.128.244/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html#comment-44 I need to get insurance! So sad it took Fred Egan's situation to get everyone's ass in gear! I need to get insurance! So sad it took Fred Egan’s situation to get everyone’s ass in gear!

]]> By: claude etienne http://nickonken.com/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-43 claude etienne Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:26:06 +0000 http://205.186.128.244/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html#comment-43 Hi Nick, I discovered your blog about a month ago, and it's become one of my favorites. What do you think about less expensive options such as Drobo, and online backup solutions such as Photoshelter? Do you think they are sufficiently robust as a Digital Asset Management system? On another note I'm looking forward to your first book. Hi Nick,
I discovered your blog about a month ago, and it’s become one of my favorites. What do you think about less expensive options such as Drobo, and online backup solutions such as Photoshelter? Do you think they are sufficiently robust as a Digital Asset Management system? On another note I’m looking forward to your first book.

]]> By: Casey Templeton http://nickonken.com/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html/comment-page-1#comment-42 Casey Templeton Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:56:38 +0000 http://205.186.128.244/blog/2009/11/back-the-f-up.html#comment-42 My team and I try to live by the mind set that "It doesn't exist until it exist in two places!" Thanks for sharing. My team and I try to live by the mind set that “It doesn’t exist until it exist in two places!” Thanks for sharing.

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